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Oracle v. Google - Stipulation on Copyright Damages Approved
Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 02:06 PM EDT

The parties have just submitted a proposed stipulation on copyright damages, and Judge Alsup has already accepted it. The ordered stipulation:

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Oracle v. Google - Patent Infringement Instructions, Damage Phase Witnesses, and the Continuing Saga of Infringer's Profits
Wednesday, May 16 2012 @ 08:39 AM EDT

The jury is out on the issue of patent infringement, and the instructions issued to the jury (1153 [PDF; Text])are more favorable to Google than originally drafted. Gone are the references to "blind willfulness" and included are the definitions more favorable to Google than to Oracle. The Special Verdict Form (Text) is shortened as well given that the parties stipulated to indirect infringement on a finding of direct infringement.

The parties have also teed up their list of witnesses for the damages phase, assuming there is one. Oracle, as expected, is going to drag in Larry Page and Eric Schmidt, and what would we do without hearing from Tim Lindholm one more time. (1154 [PDF; Text]) Google's list is far shorter (1155 [PDF; Text]), and Google indicates they will only call Prof. Astrachan if Oracle calls Prof. Mitchell.


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From the Courtroom - Day 17 of Oracle v. Google ~pj - Updated 5Xs
Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 12:01 PM EDT

Our first report from the courtroom is here, and it seems real life has thrown a little tack in the road. One of the jurors had car trouble, so after the judge and the lawyers finished their early morning discussions and called for the jury, no jury. So, they waited. When the difficulty couldn't be resolved to get her to the court, she was removed from the jury by the judge. This is juror #2, according to the tweeting journalists. And then the closing statements began.

The discussion before all that is a bit disturbing. Google apparently complained about Oracle's ambush tactics, and the judge laughed it off. It isn't so funny if you are Google. And not all judges find such tactics amusing, either. If you recall, SCO, represented by Boies Schiller, who now represent Oracle, were sanctioned by the court for trying to use ambush tactics in SCO v. IBM. Actually, they were sanctioned twice. They kept changing what their case was about, presenting new allegations at the last minute.


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Oracle v. Google - Day 16 Filings
Tuesday, May 15 2012 @ 10:00 AM EDT

The further we go into the this trial the heavier the paperwork has become with no fewer than 26 documents on today's list. Because of that volume we will not be able to address all of them in detail or provide them in text, at least initially, but here are the highlights:

Motions for Judgment as a Matter of Law - Patent Phase

Both parties have filed a motion for judgment as a matter of law with respect to the patent phase of the trial. For its part, Google argues (1151 [PDF]):


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Reports from the Oracle v. Google Trial - Day 16 ~pj - Updated 4Xs
Monday, May 14 2012 @ 01:06 PM EDT

The judge has ruled on the weird Oracle motion [PDF] to delay the damages phase of the trial to get a new jury. It's a no from Judge William Alsup, also calling their position on the 9 lines of code and the test files and damages "super extreme". They'll have to present it to *this* jury. There's no way the law should allow a disgorgement theory over millions or billions of dollars for nine lines of code, the judge tells them, our man in the courtroom tells us. The 37 APIs will not be part of phase three, "because liability has not been proven on that". So that's that. Google's motion for summary judgment on copyright damages [PDF] is also denied. It's on to the damages phase after closing statements by tomorrow, with this jury. Meanwhile, Google expert Dr. David August, who testified on Friday, is back on the witness stand.

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Oracle v. Google - Some Background on the Copyright Damages Issue
Monday, May 14 2012 @ 11:15 AM EDT

We've all seen the fur flying on the issue of copyright infringement damages with respect to rangeCheck and the decompiled files. It's worth stepping back and putting this into perspective, and it's also worth considering the arguments advanced.

First, the perspective. The jury found rangeCheck infringed. The jury also found the decompiled files not infringed, but Judge Alsup, on Oracle's motion for judgment as a matter of law, has overruled the jury on that one. So both rangeCheck and the decompiled files are infringing. For our purposes, let's set aside everything else (e.g., the SSO) as being unresolved, either because the jury was unable to reach a determination (the jury WAS in agreement that the SSO was infringed but not in agreement on Google's fair use defense) or because the Court has yet to rule on an issue of law (e.g., whether an implementation of a specification constitutes a derivative work of that specification). Those unresolved copyright infringement issues are more important than the issues that have been resolved.


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Oracle v. Google - Weekend Filings
Sunday, May 13 2012 @ 03:00 PM EDT

PJ has separately covered the more important filings from the weekend, namely Google's motion for summary judgment on the damages issue with respect to rangeCheck and the decompiled files and Oracle's motion to delay phase 3 of the trial until the copyright liability issues are settled, there were a few other filings. One of those was the Court's ruling in favor of Oracle (and overturning the jury) on the issue of infringement of the decompiled files. (1123 [PDF; Text]) The Court has also issued another draft of the proposed jury instructions for the patent infringement liability phase of the trial. (1120 [PDF; Text]) These revisions incorporate some of the suggestions from the parties with respect to the first draft.

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Google Files for SJ on Copyright Damages; Oracle: Could We Wait and Get a New Jury Instead? ~pj
Sunday, May 13 2012 @ 09:46 AM EDT

Google has filed a motion for Summary Judgment on copyright damages, arguing that Oracle has no evidence that Google gained anything financially that can be linked to rangeCheck or the test files:
Oracle has no evidence, and cannot possibly prove, that Google earned any revenue causally linked to either the nine lines of rangeCheck or the eight superfluous test files.
That is, of course, obviously true. The judge said he was going to tell the jury that, in fact. How can Oracle win infringer's profits if there aren't any?

So Oracle has now filed a motion asking for a postponement of phase three of the trial, the damages phase. It would like a new jury, too. It wants to wait to calculate damages until after the judge decides whether APIs are copyrightable, so it can add the 37 API files into the mix for damages, if they are. Maybe then it would have a prayer of getting some money.

In short, Oracle woke up and realized it's in a pickle of its own making. It was too clever by half, and now reality has struck. It clearly is worried that if they go to the damages phase now, it will gain a big fat zero in damages. It should have thought of that before it asked for infringer's profits, but there you are.


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Day 15 at the Oracle v. Google Trial ~pj - McFadden, Parr, August - Updated 2Xs
Friday, May 11 2012 @ 06:09 PM EDT

Today's reporter for Groklaw at the Oracle v. Google trial has filed his reports, three of them so far, and they are voluminous. You will enjoy his thorough account of the day's events.

I saw the tweeting journalists saying, Oh no, more code. But that's exactly what you want. The journalists zone out, but what I see in the notes is that the judge is paying very, very close attention, enough to ask meaningful questions. So, enjoy. I'll keep adding to the reports, but I have the first one done. [They're all done now.] Witnesses today were Andrew McFadden, Terence Parr, and David August, all Google's witnesses, providing expert testimony that Google didn't use Oracle's patented technology.

One bad news bit for Google: the judge has granted Oracle's motion for judgment as a matter of law on the directly copied test files, in question 3b of the jury's instructions, that they had decided Google didn't infringe, overruling their opposite finding. And here's the order [PDF]. The judge seems to be going to great lengths to ensure any appeal will not require a new trial.


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Oracle's [Mostly] Denied Motion For JMOL on Fair Use, as text ~ pj Updated 2Xs
Friday, May 11 2012 @ 09:54 AM EDT

I thought you'd like to see the Oracle motion that the Hon. William Alsup denied Wednesday, after a couple of hours of oral argument. I see at least one person tweeting that the judge has ruled that APIs are not copyrightable. He hasn't ruled on that yet. This was something else. You can read about the judge's ruling here.

What he did rule on were two motions for judgment as a matter of law. If a party feels at any point that after hearing all the evidence, its case can be decided by the judge without a jury because no jury could reasonably find for the other party, it can file a motion asking for judgment as a matter of law. It's common to see that near or at the end of the presentation of evidence in a trial. That kind of motion is called a Rule 50(A) motion. Here, Oracle's motion, dated May 1st, was asking the judge to rule, among other things, that Oracle is entitled to judgment as a matter of law on Google’s fair use defense. It's that motion that was denied. Google's JMOL was also denied. The bigger question, whether APIs are even copyrightable, is still pending.

So what does this ruling mean? That the issue of Google's fair use defense, at a minimum, remains alive and it has to go to a jury, a new one, unless the judge in his pending ruling decides that APIs aren't copyrightable.

Here's the Oracle motion [PDF], and I've done it as text for you. It's not the ruling we are waiting for, but it's a pretty significant decision anyhow, because it slams the door on Oracle's attempt to get a $1 billion payday from its copyright claims.


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